Alternative to LGfL

**newisp** · 1st December 2010, 04:31 PM

With LGfL in flux for the next couple of years (at least) is there an appetite for schools to have an alternative, independent ISP provision? Offering more flexible pricing and bandwidth, inclusive of Becta approved filtering etc. There may be something in the pipeline if there is an appetite for it!

**Edinlondon** · 1st December 2010, 07:54 PM

At current Synetrix pricing I have only found a couple of cheaper suppliers for similar lines. However, they didn't come with the value added which made the LGfL a much better option. I believe the new Virgin pricing will be better than the current pricing and with even more as standard.

I can't see how 2,600 schools can be wrong. I have heard of a couple schools in other RBCs move away from the central provision and have regretted it because they just didn't understand the impact and thought they had a standard everyday internet connection.

**Edinlondon** · 1st December 2010, 07:57 PM

Also, you say "in flux". I think you might have mis understood the situation a might to check your facts.

**eejit** · 1st December 2010, 08:40 PM

I know a school who recently moved away from Synetrix - they went to Zen after being unhappy about their internet for years. It was much more expensive, but they are very happy with the speed and reliability.

Many schools moan about their internet in London, but now is probably the last time they'd want to move, they are more likely to wait and see how the Virgin move goes - unless the alternative is very cost effective. If you'd proposed this last year then I'm sure that you'd have had a lot of interest.

**Edinlondon** · 1st December 2010, 09:03 PM

Not wanting to defend Synetrix (as I am no big fan) I believe the vast majority (and I mean 80%+) of calls about speed turn out to be either the fact that need to upgrade (as they are not on 10Mb and using all their connect) or is an issue with the internal school network and infrastructure.

I believe with Virgin, the minimum connection is 10Mb.

**arthur231283** · 17th February 2011, 09:29 PM

The school I work at are thinking of moving away from LGFL and going with BT for their ISP. The school want to stick with Fronter and if possible Fronter via LGFL. Does anyone know if this is possible?

**Edinlondon** · 18th February 2011, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by arthur231283

The school I work at are thinking of moving away from LGFL and going with BT for their ISP. The school want to stick with Fronter and if possible Fronter via LGFL. Does anyone know if this is possible?

It's not. The LGfL services come with the connection. You mentioned ISP, do you realise the LGfL aren't an ISP and what else you get with the connection (which you won't get with BT)?

**arthur231283** · 18th February 2011, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Edinlondon

It's not. The LGfL services come with the connection. You mentioned ISP, do you realise the LGfL aren't an ISP and what else you get with the connection (which you won't get with BT)?

I know LGFL is not an ISP. We also use the Sophos anti-virus provided by LGFL, our current website and a few other things.

BT do provide some of these but I would also need to look at getting some services from other companies. This is not something that will definitely happen it's just that the school want to look at other options and if there are any savings that can be made.

**adamf** · 19th February 2011, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by arthur231283

The school I work at are thinking of moving away from LGFL and going with BT for their ISP. The school want to stick with Fronter and if possible Fronter via LGFL. Does anyone know if this is possible?

We were looking to move away from the LGfL due to our annual cost going up by around 6k!! Fronter was the problem for us also, as soon as you leave the LGfL you loose the pricing that has been agreed for London schools and instantly the whole solution ends up costing more than staying with the LGfL.

**Brpilot99** · 20th February 2011, 10:02 AM

We're looking at the Virgin business offerings ... fibre but not syncronous, but for us as we dont do a lot of uploading its worth a look ... Smoothwall for the filtering ....

**irsprint84** · 20th February 2011, 10:08 AM

We re going with global axs 100mb line

**chrisbyrd** · 20th February 2011, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by newisp

With LGfL in flux for the next couple of years (at least) is there an appetite for schools to have an alternative, independent ISP provision? Offering more flexible pricing and bandwidth, inclusive of Becta approved filtering etc. There may be something in the pipeline if there is an appetite for it!

This is already very much available

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