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Wifi in Wetherspoons - Problems connecting

LarryPlaneLarryPlane Posts: 390
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I've just bought myself a shinny new NC20 and while it connects to the O2 box in my living room with no problems it wouldn't connect while I was supping a pint in Wetherspoons.

Now assuming the beer had nothing to do with the problem, has anyone else had problems of this sort?

Basically the NC20 could see the Connection (cloud something or other), but when I tried to connect it could only manage a limited connection, which of course did not include the internet.

Anyone any ideas?

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 454
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    I've found getting a connection in Wetherspoons to be a very hit-and-miss affair. I usually ask the bar person where the best place to sit for a good signal is which sometimes helps (if they don't give me a perplexed look and a moronic 'What do you mean?' first).
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    LarryPlaneLarryPlane Posts: 390
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    Seemed as though the signal was good, just the connection was not happening. Can't remember exactly what it said, something like "waiting for ID number" or something like that....
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 261
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    You might need to connect to the wireless network first, which will then give you a limited connection meaning your connected locally to their equipment in the pub, then you open your browser and enter a few details, your name etc, this should then get you online on the cloud network.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 77
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    I find this all the time, not just Wetherspoons but coffee shops etc too.
    i sometimes have to work on the road and need to connect to the net, and theres nothing worse than spending £3 on a crap coffee to find you cant connect....rage
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    LarryPlaneLarryPlane Posts: 390
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    I've had a look in the Windows Event manager and I am seeing this at about the time I first tried to connect:

    The IP address lease 192.x.x.x for the Network Card with network address 0024D26A8DE2 has been denied by the DHCP server 10.29.29.161 (The DHCP Server sent a DHCPNACK message).

    (I put the "x" in).

    No reason given for the rejection. Already in use?

    Just a theory, but before I left for the pub I was connecting via my O2 box, I then put the computer into STAND BY, went down the pub, then brought back out of stand by....

    Could that have neem the problem due you think? Network card already had an IP lease and this was one already logged with the server.
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    LarryPlaneLarryPlane Posts: 390
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    I've done some research on this and found that sometimes, moving a laptop between locations, can cause these sorts of problems and they can "possibly" be solved by doing the following...
    Follow these steps to quickly release and/or renew the Internet Protocol (IP) address of a computer running Windows XP, Windows 2000, or Windows NT.
    Difficulty: Easy
    Time Required: seconds
    Here's How:

    1. Click the Start menu button on the Windows taskbar.

    2. Click Run... on this menu.

    3. If the computer is holding a current IP address, type 'cmd' (without the quotes) in the text box that appears. A command prompt window appears on the screen.

    4. Type 'ipconfig' (without the quotes) to view the status of the computer's IP address(es).

    5. If the computer is holding a current IP address, type 'ipconfig /release' to let go of the address.

    6. Type 'ipconfig /renew' to obtain a new IP address (whether or not the computer is holding a current address).

    Tips:

    1. If it is not necessary to view the current IP addresses on a computer, simply type 'ipconfig /release' or 'ipconfig /renew' (without the quotes) in the text box that appears in Step 3.

    2. To bring a computer back onto the network after moving it to a different location, or experiencing an unexpected outage, first release, then renew the IP address. Computers on DHCP networks often (but not always) re-establish network connectivity automatically.

    I haven't tried this yet myself, but I am hoping it will work.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 99
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    LarryPlane wrote: »
    I've done some research on this and found that sometimes, moving a laptop between locations, can cause these sorts of problems and they can "possibly" be solved by doing the following...



    I haven't tried this yet myself, but I am hoping it will work.

    I've used something called PocketDHCP on my PDA to for that, for similar reasons. Then I reboot it, not sure if either helps but the combination seems like it might do.

    I can really relate to noonesin's post, although I've never been three pounds down on it, I think the most expensive coffee I've bought partly to get free wifi that wouldn't work for me (it wouldn't accept my code) was our new Ramada Encore.

    I used to rarely even bother asking when I couldn't get it to work some places, not fancying a "is the wifi working?" "what's wifi?" type conversation, but that seems to be getting better over time. That is, they tend to know what it is now, but either they believe it's working fine or they don't know how to fix it!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,345
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    All the info you need is on this section of the Wetherspoons site. There's also a .pdf copy of the wifi leaflet available in their pubs available there too. The main thing to remember is Username: Sponsored, Password: Service.

    I've had no problem connecting with my iPod touch, but that does have the advantage of being able to easily wander around the pub with a wifi network signal-strength checker running until I locate exactly where the access point is located, so I know which parts of the pub will give a good signal :)
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    LarryPlaneLarryPlane Posts: 390
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    Thanks mate. I'll give it a whirl this Friday.
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    eddieheddieh Posts: 1,611
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    PrinceGaz wrote: »
    All the info you need is on this section of the Wetherspoons site. There's also a .pdf copy of the wifi leaflet available in their pubs available there too. The main thing to remember is Username: Sponsored, Password: Service.

    I've had no problem connecting with my iPod touch, but that does have the advantage of being able to easily wander around the pub with a wifi network signal-strength checker running until I locate exactly where the access point is located, so I know which parts of the pub will give a good signal :)

    I'm confused about point 4 in the leaflet, if its a free wifi service why do you need to select the payment option?
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    mrdeejaymrdeejay Posts: 572
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    eddieh wrote: »
    I'm confused about point 4 in the leaflet, if its a free wifi service why do you need to select the payment option?

    I have NEVER got that part myself either!!!!!
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    LarryPlaneLarryPlane Posts: 390
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    Just as an update to the above, I have now returned from holiday and my laptop connected to every single WiFi point in all the hotels and airports I visited without problems. It even connected to the Wetherspoons in Birmingham airport without problems!

    So, looks as though my local has or had a broken server.

    All that effort to sort the problem out and it was their fault!

    BTW - it seems as though the cloud account system is used to limit the time you can spend on the connection. When I was on it, a timer on the landing page counted down from 24 hours, but there was no indication if this is cumulative per week, month or year.
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