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I have tried to access Starbucks website on my browser, both with a LEAP and with my Classic. However, it appears this website is not recognizing my virtual or PKB key strokes/input. I have tried multiple browsers - with no luck.
This is the ONLY site that I'm having problems with running the latest BB 10 OS 10.3.3
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Haha, Bla1ze might be right......but before you do that, have you tried putting the browser into desktop mode?I have tried to access Starbucks website on my browser, both with a LEAP and with my Classic. However, it appears this website is not recognizing my virtual or PKB key strokes/input. I have tried multiple browsers - with no luck.
This is the ONLY site that I'm having problems with running the latest BB 10 OS 10.3.3
Suggestions?
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Yeah, I've tried desktop mode, went back to 3.2 and no joy
I really dread having to go to android or iphone.
What's strange, is that the website worked for awhile the stopped. I can pull up the website, but it's not accepting / recognizing my text input for login or password. It will accept/recognize input for everything else. I have sent an email to starbucks explaining what is happening. I don't expect any help.
What pisses me off is that Blackberry/Chen just abandoned the platform.11-12-17 03:42 PMLike 0 -
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I completely hear you on the BlackBerry / Chen thing and not wanting to go ios or android. It's a really disappointing situation, especially because it's such a superb platform with so many possibilities, but I digress.Yeah, I've tried desktop mode, went back to 3.2 and no joy
I really dread having to go to android or iphone.
What's strange, is that the website worked for awhile the stopped. I can pull up the website, but it's not accepting / recognizing my text input for login or password. It will accept/recognize input for everything else. I have sent an email to starbucks explaining what is happening. I don't expect any help.
What pisses me off is that Blackberry/Chen just abandoned the platform.
Here's another thought that I've had to work through on a few websites....are you using Password Keeper to copy/paste the passwords, or are you actually typing them out?
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I actually tried this myself, and inquired about it in another thread....a few people there tried it and had the same result.
Additionally, by complete coincidence I found the exact same issue on Kohl's check out page. It would not allow me to type the credit card info, it was like I wasn't even typing. I seem to think that websites are updating the security policies and we're going to see more and more of this on BB10 as the next several months go by.
One thought someone had was that this might be a Javascript issue, and that a browser like Evolution might solve the problem.
Have you tried Evolution Browser or Browsie?
I intend to download them and give them a try, but haven't gotten to it yet. The bigger concern is that this seems to be happening on more websites and without a true work-around, BlackBerry 10s days might be numbered.
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Browsie did not work.
I agree without at least browser access BB is pretty much done.
I have a LEAP, passport and a classic which I fear that I won't be able to off load. So, myself and many others are going to be stuck with a worthless platform and be forced to go with Android or apple.
You would think Chen would at least throw us bone and update the Android run time and able us to access the Google play store. Not going to happen though.
Of course "Bla1ze" jumped ship and fully embraced Android., And left us true BB ex lovers
With no voice to BB / RIM.
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The ART issue is impossible to overcome. I left BB10 too, because I recognized it was done, finished, over. Holding on to it would serve no purpose, other than personal frustration just as you're experiencing.Browsie did not work.
I agree without at least browser access BB is pretty much done.
I have a LEAP, passport and a classic which I fear that I won't be able to off load. So, myself and many others are going to be stuck with a worthless platform and be forced to go with Android or apple.
You would think Chen would at least throw us bone and update the Android run time and able us to access the Google play store. Not going to happen though.
Of course "Bla1ze" jumped ship and fully embraced Android., And left us true BB ex lovers
With no voice to BB / RIM.
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The Android runtime from what I understand is a licensing issue with Google, so no chance to update.Browsie did not work.
I agree without at least browser access BB is pretty much done.
I have a LEAP, passport and a classic which I fear that I won't be able to off load. So, myself and many others are going to be stuck with a worthless platform and be forced to go with Android or apple.
You would think Chen would at least throw us bone and update the Android run time and able us to access the Google play store. Not going to happen though.
Of course "Bla1ze" jumped ship and fully embraced Android., And left us true BB ex lovers
With no voice to BB / RIM.
Thanks Bla1ze
They could, however, update the browser which for the vast majority of us hold outs, would be all that would be needed. I find there's very little that actually requires an app....almost everything can be done via a browser....IF that browser is up to date and properly working.
Sad since it's such a great platform with so much uncaptured opportunity.
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I said uncaptured opportunity....not sales....theres a distinction. I didn't say blackberry should invest further in bb10.
Everyone on this site is so hard on bb10, but you have to acknowledge that when doing a straight OS to OS technology comparison that it's superior in nearly every way to ios or android. What it lacks is Apps, but that's not because the OS can't run them, it's because nobody developed them. It's sad to see an OS with so much potential and capability be stuffed in the drawer. We never even scratched the surface on the things it could be capable of.
For reasons discussed ad nauseum on this site, Blackberry couldn't sell it. In my opinion, that's because blackberry has always been really techie and at the heart of it are just a bunch of geeks and hackers that design awesome technology....... they're NOT business or marketing folks. But that's just my opinion.
Are you telling me that if you took bb10, slapped an apple logo on it and gave it access to the Apple app store that people wouldn't flock to it in droves?
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No, because the fact is there is no ecosystem. Nobody developed it so it doesn't matter. It's practically dead. There was never anything to market to few people that cared since minimum costs would never be recouped.I said uncaptured opportunity....not sales....theres a distinction. I didn't say blackberry should invest further in bb10.
Everyone on this site is so hard on bb10, but you have to acknowledge that when doing a straight OS to OS technology comparison that it's superior in nearly every way to ios or android. What it lacks is Apps, but that's not because the OS can't run them, it's because nobody developed them. It's sad to see an OS with so much potential and capability be stuffed in the drawer. We never even scratched the surface on the things it could be capable of.
For reasons discussed ad nauseum on this site, Blackberry couldn't sell it. In my opinion, that's because blackberry has always been really techie and at the heart of it are just a bunch of geeks and hackers that design awesome technology....... they're NOT business or marketing folks. But that's just my opinion.
Think of BB10 as economic waste of money and time... It wouldn't have mattered because even with apps, that wasn't the only part of an ecosystem that mattered for BB. The other missing part of the ecosystem was revenue. There was no recurring income stream to replace BIS monthly income.
At time of IOS rollout, Apple had a much larger customer base of hardware customers to sell to because of iPods and Macs etc. Additionally, Windows users (traditional OS and mobile OS) that didn't see the need for email, texting and phone device, flocked to IOS because of those iTunes and the apps.
Just like consumers don't really care about sharing their data with Apple or Google, they didn't care about the characteristics of BBOS/BB10 that remaining fans stayed with BB for in 2013. Forget lost time and customers between 10.1 and 10.2.1 and 10.3.2. People had already moved on.
In some ways, Apple is slapping their name on some BB10 features now in their OS, but like everything similar to BB, it's not driving Apple sales. They're just afterthoughts or add-ons. More people care about headphone jacks and battery life etc.
In other words, people flock to Apple logo for the lifestyle it represents. If you slapped the Apple logo on BB10 devices and gave them access to IOS apps, it would still fail because many BB10 features still wouldn't appeal to masses. You'd have to kill IOS so they wouldn't have a choice.Last edited by Chuck Finley69; 11-18-17 at 07:11 AM.
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Did you even read the post?No, because the fact is there is no ecosystem. Nobody developed it so it doesn't matter. It's practically dead. There was never anything to market to few people that cared since minimum costs would never be recouped.
Think of BB10 as economic waste of money and time...
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I'm well aware of what you said. Had sales been captured, opportunity would follow. Lack of sales resulted in a lack of 3rd party development. A later half-baked effort to piggyback on Andriod's successful ecosystem was doomed to fail. You can't market a product telling consumers if you work hard enough, most of what you want can be obtained through work-arounds. If somehow it had, Google would have simply made sure most became none.
I loved BB10 once it was developed into a competitive system, and used it from inception for 4 years. That doesn't exclude me from looking at it from a realistic perspective.
At 10.2 it was a better experience out of the box than Android and iOS in many respects. In many others it never was superior. The irony of this thread is BB10's browser started out better than anyone's, though it was an augmentation of Apple's WebKit browser. Once flash support was stripped for obvious security reasons, it lost that leg up.
Last I checked, people don't work for free.
I'm telling you all the should have, could have in the world doesn't make a difference. Fantasy doesn't drive sales. In reality, the OP is arriving at the same place the majority of us have. It's a wonderful OS that no longer functions well enough to be our daily driver, regardless how gaga we feel about it.Laura Knotek likes this.11-18-17 05:33 AMLike 1 -
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There were a bunch of sites I could no longer login to on my Q10. Now with the K1, I can login or just use the app.11-18-17 09:02 AMLike 0 -
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You've missed the entire point of my post. My point was that Blackberry 10 didn't fail because the technology was inferior, it failed because it was out competed on a business level.....the base technology of QNX is actually superior. We're talking about two very different things. Any argument beyond that is moot. It's not a business analysis.No, because the fact is there is no ecosystem. Nobody developed it so it doesn't matter. It's practically dead. There was never anything to market to few people that cared since minimum costs would never be recouped.
Think of BB10 as economic waste of money and time... It wouldn't have mattered because even with apps, that wasn't the only part of an ecosystem that mattered for BB. The other missing part of the ecosystem was revenue. There was no recurring income stream to replace BIS monthly income.
At time of IOS rollout, Apple had a much larger customer base of hardware customers to sell to because of iPods and Macs etc. Additionally, Windows users (traditional OS and mobile OS) that didn't see the need for email, texting and phone device, flocked to IOS because of those iTunes and the apps.
Just like consumers don't really care about sharing their data with Apple or Google, they didn't care about the characteristics of BBOS/BB10 that remaining fans stayed with BB for in 2013. Forget lost time and customers between 10.1 and 10.2.1 and 10.3.2. People had already moved on.
In some ways, Apple is slapping their name on some BB10 features now in their OS, but like everything similar to BB, it's not driving Apple sales. They're just afterthoughts or add-ons. More people care about headphone jacks and battery life etc.
In other words, people flock to Apple logo for the lifestyle it represents. If you slapped the Apple logo on BB10 devices and gave them access to IOS apps, it would still fail because many BB10 features still wouldn't appeal to masses. You'd have to kill IOS so they wouldn't have a choice.
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Actually the technology was generally inferior for a phone. It had a poor memory model. A UI framework that was very primitive compared to what others offered by 2012. The available natives APIs were just a fraction of what we as developers had on other platforms.You've missed the entire point of my post. My point was that Blackberry 10 didn't fail because the technology was inferior, it failed because it was out competed on a business level.....the base technology of QNX is actually superior. We're talking about two very different things. Any argument beyond that is moot. It's not a business analysis.
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But your points stands. The inferior tech wasn’t what killed it. It was the overall strategy and execution.Dunt Dunt Dunt likes this.11-18-17 01:34 PMLike 1 -
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But again, at least to my understanding, those were things that hadn't been built out yet....it wasn't that QNX couldn't do them, it was that they hadn't been done yet.Actually the technology was generally inferior for a phone. It had a poor memory model. A UI framework that was very primitive compared to what others offered by 2012. The available natives APIs were just a fraction of what we as developers had on other platforms.
But your points stands. The inferior tech wasn’t what killed it. It was the overall strategy and execution.
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