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Petro Canada Mobile Rant

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Petro Canada Mobile Rant

Maybe the wrong sub-forum but this one will get the most attention!

Long story short, I have had my mom on a pay-as-you-go plan with Petro for the last 2 years or so. I have about $15 come out of my Visa every month and it is used to ensure there are enough funds for her. She does not use the phone and the balance gets carried over to the following month.

I changed my Visa card last month and forgot to update Petro Canada with my new info, I called today as the new phone I got her did not have any service. I was told by the agent that due to not paying the August amount of $15 dollars, the service was SUSPENDED even though I had $385 dollars saved up since I got her the plan. When I asked them about why they could not use my credit of $385, the agent responded to me saying that because I did not pay for August it all gets wiped out! I inquired further about this as it is a credit, it should be given to me or used towards the next months fee until it clears (not sure if it ever will because she barely uses it) and unfortunately the answer was the same.

To re-activate her account I need to pay by September 16th and it will be a fresh start of $15 dollars. This is completely unfair since I have built up such a credit and now it is all gone? I have logged a complaint with the CRTC to hopefully come to a resolution.

Just my rant and to inform the public about this unfair practice.
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Petro Canada $15 topups have a 30 day expiry. Took me 30 seconds to find that on their website.

Have you considered Speakout instead? 365 day expiry so you'd only have to top up once or twice a year if the phone truly never gets used.
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I do $25 top up every 120 days, $100 for 480 days. Sucks that the balance expires if not renewed, but that's how pay as you go works.
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I know it's too late now, but a much better option would have been Speakout Wireless. The balance lasts for a full year, so you'd only have to top it off once a year to maintain any balance.

It's total BS that they took all your money, but if that's their terms of service I don't know what you can do.
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I use to pay $100 per year on my CC to Virgin for PP (no plan). I don't use the phone much so the balance got to be over $400 after a few years. Now Virgin made my PP $5 a month and I have been using the balance instead of my CC to pay.
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I'm with Petro Mobility and top up $25 every 4 months - $75/yr. Why are you doing $15/month when she isn't even using it? You are spending way more than you need to.
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Don't they have like an automatic top-up app so you don't have to worry what the balance is? Never had an issue with PetroCanada, cheap and simple.
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Guys it is a rant, I just find it unfair that I continue to get charged while not using the minutes. I am well aware of their policy and have taken the steps to have my mom set up on Speak out.
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zappy312 wrote: There's a 7 calendar day grace period available as per the CRTC to top up and retain your prepaid balance.

https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/phone/mobile/prepay.htm
I think it's total bullshit that your own money is allowed to vanish into thin air. Any money that you pay into any prepaid service should be valid for LIFE. Any time you cancel a prepaid account, any unused money should be automatically refunded to you in full by credit card or by cheque.

This is nothing but pathetic gauging.
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Poutinesauce wrote: I think it's total bullshit that your own money is allowed to vanish into thin air. Any money that you pay into any prepaid service should be valid for LIFE. Any time you cancel a prepaid account, any unused money should be automatically refunded to you in full by credit card or by cheque.

This is nothing but pathetic gauging.
THANK YOU. Surprised that so many are okay with this practice.
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flyingnurse wrote: THANK YOU. Surprised that so many are okay with this practice.
I'm not okay with it. I hated having $400 in my account balance and having to add more with my CC otherwise it would disappear. I found out that you can pay with your account balance rather than your CC (at least with Virgin). I haven't had to add money for my cell plan for 3 years and still have over $270 in my account. Maybe other company's allow you to use your balance rather than adding more money.
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flyingnurse wrote: THANK YOU. Surprised that so many are okay with this practice.
I do not think anyone is okay with the policy but you were well aware of the rules and their policy in advance and for years. It is unfortunate you forgot to update the the billing information but that is not their fault and they shouldn't have to be held liable for a mistake you've made.

As someone else noted check out speak out now as their vouchers last a year. They also send you a text a few days before expiry to remind you.
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WMPCOT wrote: I do not think anyone is okay with the policy but you were well aware of the rules and their policy in advance and for years. It is unfortunate you forgot to update the the billing information but that is not their fault and they shouldn't have to be held liable for a mistake you've made.

As someone else noted check out speak out now as their vouchers last a year. They also send you a text a few days before expiry to remind you.
The policy is an ass. I don't care whatever it says. It shouldn't be there. It's a scam. It would not be valid for any other sector of the economy. Why should the telcos keep getting away with it?

Plus most people who have prepaid phone services are students, the elderly, immigrants, children, people on welfare or with low income. It means that the telcos are targeting the most vulnerable people in society and outright stealing their money. It's despicable. And the CRTC, which is supposed to be their watchdog, is aiding and abetting this theft!
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Poutinesauce wrote: The policy is an ass. I don't care whatever it says. It shouldn't be there. It's a scam. It would not be valid for any other sector of the economy. Why should the telcos keep getting away with it?

Plus most people who have prepaid phone services are students, the elderly, immigrants, children, people on welfare or with low income. It means that the telcos are targeting the most vulnerable people in society and outright stealing their money. It's despicable. And the CRTC, which is supposed to be their watchdog, is aiding and abetting this theft!
It is an extremely simple solution, avoid them and go with another company.

How are they targeting anyone? You know exactly what happens and everything is very clear if you accept that and become their client thats on you and no one else.
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WMPCOT wrote: It is an extremely simple solution, avoid them and go with another company.

How are they targeting anyone? You know exactly what happens and everything is very clear if you accept that and become their client thats on you and no one else.
Except all of their competitors are doing the exact same thing, because the CRTC is inept.

How are people supposed to go without a phone service nowaday? For someone on welfare for whom every dollar counts, this is all they can afford.
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Poutinesauce wrote: The policy is an ass. I don't care whatever it says. It shouldn't be there. It's a scam. It would not be valid for any other sector of the economy. Why should the telcos keep getting away with it?

Plus most people who have prepaid phone services are students, the elderly, immigrants, children, people on welfare or with low income. It means that the telcos are targeting the most vulnerable people in society and outright stealing their money. It's despicable. And the CRTC, which is supposed to be their watchdog, is aiding and abetting this theft!
I agree with this. Remember when Air Miles implemented a five YEAR expiry for earned points, and when it was getting close to the deadline people were going ballistic? Especially right here on RFD? And this was for points that we never paid for; the were given to all of us for free? Finally after mounting public pressure the legislature stepped in and Air Miles backed down.

Now if five YEAR expiry on points that were handed out for FREE causes such an uproar, how is it that $15 that we PAY for a service and that expires in as little as 30 DAYS is tolerated and we're told to suck it up? It's obvious to me why--prepaid cellular airtime is generally for the poor, so who cares.
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Poutinesauce wrote: Except all of their competitors are doing the exact same thing, because the CRTC is inept.

How are people supposed to go without a phone service nowaday? For someone on welfare for whom every dollar counts, this is all they can afford.
Speak out wireless, they text you before your voucher is set to expire, their vouchers are good for 365 days even the lowest value one. This goes straight to not doing your due diligence and trying to blame someone else for a mistake you have made.
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Kiraly wrote: I agree with this. Remember when Air Miles implemented a five YEAR expiry for earned points, and when it was getting close to the deadline people were going ballistic? Especially right here on RFD? And this was for points that we never paid for; the were given to all of us for free? Finally after mounting public pressure the legislature stepped in and Air Miles backed down.

Now if five YEAR expiry on points that were handed out for FREE causes such an uproar, how is it that $15 that we PAY for a service and that expires in as little as 30 DAYS is tolerated and we're told to suck it up? It's obvious to me why--prepaid cellular airtime is generally for the poor, so who cares.
Your last statement is slightly ridiculous because they aren't going after the poor this is just one example that may effect that specific group but the telecom companies here go after everyone I would say fairly equally like when they charged everyone a system access fee, or how our wireless fees are higher than most other places.

My argument is not that telcos are in the right or that I agree with their terms of service simply that you read and agree to them then you get upset when you forget to update something?
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WMPCOT wrote: Your last statement is slightly ridiculous because they aren't going after the poor this is just one example that may effect that specific group but the telecom companies here go after everyone I would say fairly equally like when they charged everyone a system access fee, or how our wireless fees are higher than most other places.

My argument is not that telcos are in the right or that I agree with their terms of service simply that you read and agree to them then you get upset when you forget to update something?
Was it right when people who bought homes had to sign a contract with a clause stating that they would not sell it to Asians or to Catholics?

Just because it's part of some terms of service, doesn't mean that it's conscionable.

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